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When Nobody is Looking Carol McKinley 3 March 03

The tragedy is, that in the sins of omissions of the Bishops and Cardinals and priests who are allowing VOTF into their basements - - the innocent and open-minded faithful assembling to learn their faith are being taught it through dissident interpretation

Deal's vist to VOTF in New Jersey

Before leaving for Europe, Deal called me and asked me what I thought about his experience at New Jersey. We discussed it in detail.

In the first place, Deal's very presence would attract a more balanced audience. But more importantly, their purpose for the invitation was to put on a show. An orchestrated deception so that he would report his visit as a bunch of nice folks who want to help the Church. It was a publicity stunt.

Deal sent out a letter describing his visit with VOTF in New Jersey. He described his visit as cordial and open-minded.

That is the point. We have a group of Catholics who have not been taught the faith, who have assembled in the wake of the crisis to learn it......and you have Call to Action, CORPUS, We are Church who are being allowed to take control of the teaching authority of the Church. They are speaking their opinions and blasphemies and doing so in the Name of Christ..confusing the flock.

The tragedy is, that in the sins of omissions of the Bishops and Cardinals and priests who are allowing VOTF into their basements - - the innocent and open-minded faithful assembling to learn their faith are being taught it through the interpretation of Jan Leary and Anthony Padovano, Call to Action and We are Church.

Here is what they are taught when nobody is looking:

1. On the diocesan level, we could revive Archbishop John England’s early 19th century practice of the diocesan constitution, where his parishes governed themselves through periodic conventions and elected delegates of clergy and lay people to discuss the region’s problems.

2. Although bishops are ordained for life, there is no reason they cannot be limited, like superiors in religious orders, to a six year term. When a term ends, they may either go to another diocese or go back to work in the trenches, the way college deans return to teaching. This would free the bishops to get as many reforms through as possible in a reasonable time, and perhaps free younger priests from some of the temptations of careerism.

3. The office of cardinal is not from divine law. Lay persons have been cardinals and could be cardinals again. With a stroke of his pen, the next pope could appoint 50 women cardinals and radically enrich the face and future of the church.

4. Women, I suspect, will be ordained only after the church has experimented more with married clergy. A married priesthood will work its way in through the third world countries where the idea of an unmarried male is neither understood nor accepted.

The church must be open, not a defensive sect preoccupied with orthodoxy. Certain dogmatic formulations, he says, remain subject to change: the form of the sacrament of penance; who may receive communion; the Sunday obligation; the stand toward the state’s penal laws on abortion; which parties or candidates a Catholic may support; to what degree heretical opinions separate us from the church.

It will be declericalized. A chess club, he says, is defined by its members, those who play chess. The hierarchy, the leadership, of the club is necessary in so far as it serves the club; but the hierarchy should not imagine that they play chess better than the members just because of their job.

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Deal felt he was successful in helping some of those in attendance understand that the group they are associating themselves with - is leading them astray, as we were when things got started up here in Boston. The meetings which used to be attended by 200 are down to a few in every parish here. We did what we could to expose and document what is actually happening inside of these "meetings". We recorded and documented enough to get one of the eleven Cardinal's in the United States to intercede on behalf of the innocent lambs being led astray.

Cardinal Law had no intention of dismissing VOTF easily. He told us it was his job to to correct take the information and ask explanation from them..correct their errors..guide them back into the proper teachings of the Church. When he met with Jim Post and the crew and exposed the details and evidence which we had collected, and asked for explanation of the printed materials and documented evidence - VOTF was astounded. They expected the Cardinal to be too preoccupied with the sexual abuse crisis to have examined and pastorly attended to their organization and activities.

They of course, had changed some of their public rhetoric and went in privately to the Cardinal with an entire new set of paperwork, saying they had just made a few mistakes in judgment, that is all. They had overhauled their organization and were in line with the Magisterium. They were dumbfounded when the Cardinal handed them back the most recent batch of heresy, taking the wind right out of their sails. They of course, never responded to the Cardinal and Bishops to what we painfully document in our local meetings here and gather up from their printed materials and internet nonsense, to this date.

That is why VOTF wants us to "mind our own business". Their intention is to march up to Lake Street saying they are just an innocent crew of people who want to help the Church...look at all the nice things we say and do and...... pull out all their public publicity stunts.

This Bishop will have the most recent nonsense right on his desk when they sit before him. And the Archbishop after that..and the one after that..and the one after that. We are teaching our seminarians how to identify their "language" and manipulations. We are teaching our children, painstakingly. They will teach their children's children and they theirs and they theirs and so on and so forth.

VOTF will indeed have the ability to terrorize and manipulate a minority of priests and Bishops.....the "McCormack's" and the "Gumbleton's" and the "Clarke's" and the "Cuenin's" and the "Berube's" and the "Bullocks" and the "Flemings" -- -- -- -- -- but they were never really ours to begin with...and they will get exactly what they bargained for...

Our job is to make sure those numbers are as few as possible.

At the end of Deal's meeting Teresa Padovano announced that Bishop Gumbleton would be their next guest. Deal identified the misguided ideas of Bishop Gumbleton in his E-letter in direct rebuke.

I suspect this will get more interesting. The Pilot printed a little ditty about McChensney, the director of the U.S. Bishop's Office for Child and Youth Protection:

"Kathleen McChesney, director of the U.S. Bishops' Office for Child and Youth Protection, said in a New York appearance on Feb. 20 that she thought bishops should allow Voice of the Faithful to meet in the churches of their dioceses"

Now, why would she do that, knowing that the Bishops have opinions otherwise? And that there must be reasons for those opinions?? She knows them. She has been told.

"McChensey said, however, that she had met with James Post, president of VOTF, and they had agreed to continue their "working relationship and dialogue."

Guess who is in bed with Call to Action?? You guessed it!!

The director of the Office of Child and Youth Protection,

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"Notably, the U.S. bishops' 13-member lay National Review Board and their new director of the Office of Child and Youth Protection, former F.B.I. official Kathleen McChesney, are exerting their own pressure on diocesan bishops to disclose the facts. By June they hope to publish a statistical study by diocese of the numbers of priest-abusers and victims, the ages of victims, and the amount of money paid in settlements and legal fees. In December McChesney hopes to release a separate audit on how well each diocese complies with the charter adopted in Dallas and modified by Rome. Auditing teams will visit all 195 dioceses to make that assessment. Meanwhile, McChesney welcomes CTA's own efforts for full disclosure in dioceses, and has scheduled a meeting with CTA leaders in Chicago early in March."

God is good, isn't He? It simply astounds me - how the information to protect His Archdiocese here comes across my path.

Ms. McChesney - your discernment is dismissed!

If you would copy this, send it along to your email lists, ask them to send it along to theirs, copy to their priests and Bishops, Christ will be served by it.

I have to see if we can't get this child protection agency to protect our children from the heretics.

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